http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card en a blog about Debian and self-hosting Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:47:00 +0200 PluXml http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1334958463-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1334958463-1 Yes I love AMD for their prices but they have some serious compatibility issues sometimes. I couldn’t agree more. Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:47:00 +0200 domain search http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1333922753-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1333922753-1 Yes I love AMD for their prices but they have some serious compatibility issues sometimes. Mon, 09 Apr 2012 00:05:00 +0200 agence web id meneo http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1328055959-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1328055959-1 Radeon 5770, no problems like this. Radeon 4200 series onboard graphics, no problems either. I'm just a lucky guy I guess. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:25:00 +0100 michael http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327838501-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327838501-1 This has been really annoying. Ati/amd, qualcomm and to an lesser extend hp printer firmware has caused me some real pain lately. If the firmware is freely distributable I don't have a problem with it. Don't understand why some manufacturers don't even let the firmware be freely distributed, seems really stupid. I'd also happily pay a few euros more if the firmware was on a flash or some rom. Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:01:00 +0100 Marvin http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327813302-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327813302-1 Pushing the non-freeness into the card itself is just hiding the problem. Pretty much all hardware (including the CPU itself) has non-free firmware either embedded in The only solution to this is OSHW: http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW http://qi-hardware.com/ Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:01:00 +0100 foo http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327766722-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327766722-1 Erbureth wrote: > Why not just use something like > > if (firmware_not_loaded) { > disable_modeset; > } > ? Well, that's not correct in general. For the recent GPUs, there are quite a few different blobs of firmware for different blocks, and some do seem to be necessary for proper operation of the drivers. Older GPUs only need firmware for 3D acceleration. Unfortunately the upstream developers seem to be confused as to exactly which features on which chips need to be disabled when the firmware is missing. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:00 +0100 Ben Hutchings http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327761765-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327761765-1 Unfortunately I had to experience similar issues. 1. On a Lenovo G555(?) it kind of worked but resuming from suspend took minutes because there seems to be a timeout looking for the firmware [1]. 2. Using the mainboard ASUS M2V-MA with Radeon X1250 resume did not work at all without the firmware [2, 3]. The upstream bug was closed at `WONTFIX`. 3. Furthermore I was disappointed that the free graphics stack does not use hardware acceleration at all. This is due to patents and legal issues I was told. So I cannot use the full capacity of the hardware I paid money for and have to get a more powerful processor to watch 1080 HD videos. And on top of it all even if I wanted to use their proprietary driver Catalyst/fglrx I cannot since they drop support for older devices after two(?) years. So AMD/ATI lost quite a bit of my respect lately when I tried out their graphics solution. They earned it with their coreboot [4] commitment. So Intel pushes UEFI but offers quite decent graphics stack with hardware acceleration I was told. AMD supports coreboot but their free graphics driver do not use hardware acceleration and their proprietary drivers cannot be used with older graphics hardware. Nvidia does not care about coreboot and free graphics drivers at all. But their proprietary drivers at least supports older graphics hardware with hardware acceleration. So it’s quite difficult to decide from which vendor to buy hardware from. [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2011-July/012878.html [2] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42580 [3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655934 [4] http://www.coreboot.org/ Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:42:00 +0100 Paul Menzel http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327757141-1 http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article41/debian-amd-graphic-card/rss#c1327757141-1 Why not just use something like if (firmware_not_loaded) { disable_modeset; } ? Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:25:00 +0100 Erbureth